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Re: California IBS SIghting Reports
IBS Report #: 572
Location: LOS ANGELES county, CA. UNITED STATES
Sighting Type: 1
Latitude: +034˚ 23' N
Longitude: 118˚ 32' W
Day:
Month:
Year: 1990
Time:
Elevation: 1200
Data Source: TR71
Credibility: 1
Locality: Santa Clarita
Researcher: DR JIM KARL
Witness: boyfriend of a waitress
Sighting Type: 1
Summary: Big Hulking Smelly Beast
Sighting Text:
CA LOS ANGELES 1990 One last tale OF DR KARL was of the boyfriend of a waitress he knew near Santa Clarita, CA. He had been on the outskirts of town in a rural area in 1990, the engine off as he was waiting for his father in the dark. As he sat, a “Big Hulking Smelly Beast,” went by him. Bobbie Short will be notified when he talks to the man, and the story passed to her for further investigation.
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Ecology: Missing
Location: LOS ANGELES county, CA. UNITED STATES
Sighting Type: 1
Latitude: +034˚ 23' N
Longitude: 118˚ 32' W
Day:
Month:
Year: 1990
Time:
Elevation: 1200
Data Source: TR71
Credibility: 1
Locality: Santa Clarita
Researcher: DR JIM KARL
Witness: boyfriend of a waitress
Sighting Type: 1
Summary: Big Hulking Smelly Beast
Sighting Text:
CA LOS ANGELES 1990 One last tale OF DR KARL was of the boyfriend of a waitress he knew near Santa Clarita, CA. He had been on the outskirts of town in a rural area in 1990, the engine off as he was waiting for his father in the dark. As he sat, a “Big Hulking Smelly Beast,” went by him. Bobbie Short will be notified when he talks to the man, and the story passed to her for further investigation.
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Re: California IBS SIghting Reports
IBS Report #: 131
Location: LOS ANGELES county, CA. UNITED STATES
Sighting Type: 1
Latitude: +034˚ 26' N
Longitude: 118˚ 15' W
Day:
Month:
Year: 1994
Time:
Elevation:
Data Source: TR43
Credibility: 5
Locality: Angeles Crest NF; at Wild Springs Campsite;
Researcher: John C.
Witness: family with seven people
Sighting Type: 1
Summary: Three BF seen by 7 people; kept on walking; male 15 ft;black;female 10-11ft;4ft light brown
Sighting Text:
CA, * Investigator (??) John C. tells of report for Angeles Crest NF; at Wild Springs Campsite; Nov. 12th; 1994. A family with seven people saw three Bigfeet on a trail near camp. The creatures walked by in broad daylight; 2:30 PM; near a small stream in heavy pine forest with big rocks and bushes. The two families stared at each other; the creatures just kept on walking. John Schmoker; wife Elaine; son Steve; his girlfriend; his daughter and her friends all witnessed the creatures. The male; estimated at 15 feet was black; gray; and light brown; as was the female. The 10-11 foot female; was described as broad shouldered; while the male was slender. Both looked almost human. A juvenile was only about four foot tall; and had light brown fur. The sighting lasted for about two minutes; there were no tracks seen but broken branches were found on some trees at a height of nine feet.. A snapshot had the possible back of one of their heads. They said the camera was ready; but they didn't think to shoot a picture until the Bigfoot family was almost gone.,
Climate / Ecology:
Precip: Crystal Lake 9.0 5.9 3.9 5.8 2.3 0.1 0.0 0.1 0.3 1.7 1.5 4.3 34.9
Temp: M
Sun: Begin civil twilight 13:57 Sunrise 14:23 Sun transit 19:37 Sunset 00:51 on following day End civil twilight 01:17 on following day Moonrise 21:14 on preceding day Moon transit 03:14 Moonset 09:20 Moonrise 21:46 Moonset 10:16 on following day Phase of the Moon on 12 November: waxing gibbous with 72% of the Moon's visible disk illuminated. First quarter Moon on 10 November 1994 at 06:14 Universal Time. ,
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Ecology: pine forest,
Location: LOS ANGELES county, CA. UNITED STATES
Sighting Type: 1
Latitude: +034˚ 26' N
Longitude: 118˚ 15' W
Day:
Month:
Year: 1994
Time:
Elevation:
Data Source: TR43
Credibility: 5
Locality: Angeles Crest NF; at Wild Springs Campsite;
Researcher: John C.
Witness: family with seven people
Sighting Type: 1
Summary: Three BF seen by 7 people; kept on walking; male 15 ft;black;female 10-11ft;4ft light brown
Sighting Text:
CA, * Investigator (??) John C. tells of report for Angeles Crest NF; at Wild Springs Campsite; Nov. 12th; 1994. A family with seven people saw three Bigfeet on a trail near camp. The creatures walked by in broad daylight; 2:30 PM; near a small stream in heavy pine forest with big rocks and bushes. The two families stared at each other; the creatures just kept on walking. John Schmoker; wife Elaine; son Steve; his girlfriend; his daughter and her friends all witnessed the creatures. The male; estimated at 15 feet was black; gray; and light brown; as was the female. The 10-11 foot female; was described as broad shouldered; while the male was slender. Both looked almost human. A juvenile was only about four foot tall; and had light brown fur. The sighting lasted for about two minutes; there were no tracks seen but broken branches were found on some trees at a height of nine feet.. A snapshot had the possible back of one of their heads. They said the camera was ready; but they didn't think to shoot a picture until the Bigfoot family was almost gone.,
Climate / Ecology:
Precip: Crystal Lake 9.0 5.9 3.9 5.8 2.3 0.1 0.0 0.1 0.3 1.7 1.5 4.3 34.9
Temp: M
Sun: Begin civil twilight 13:57 Sunrise 14:23 Sun transit 19:37 Sunset 00:51 on following day End civil twilight 01:17 on following day Moonrise 21:14 on preceding day Moon transit 03:14 Moonset 09:20 Moonrise 21:46 Moonset 10:16 on following day Phase of the Moon on 12 November: waxing gibbous with 72% of the Moon's visible disk illuminated. First quarter Moon on 10 November 1994 at 06:14 Universal Time. ,
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Ecology: pine forest,
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Re: California IBS SIghting Reports
IBS Report #: 157
Location: LOS ANGELES county, CA. UNITED STATES
Sighting Type: 3
Latitude: +034˚ 24' N
Longitude: 117˚ 49' W
Day: 2
Month: DEC
Year: 1994
Time: 9 PM
Elevation: 2
Data Source: TR#43-Jan’95,
Credibility: 3
Locality: Ridges west of Sycamore Flat on Antelope Valley side of Angeles NF,
Researcher: Peter Guttilla
Witness: Peter Guttilla
Sighting Type: 3
Summary: Screams from distant ridges,
Sighting Text:
CA, * Peter Guttilla; writer. Dec. 2nd; 1994. At 9 PM on the night of Sept. 20; 1994; I and three other people heard screams coming from the ridges west of Sycamore Flat on the Antelope Valley side of the Angeles National forest; Southern CA. Again at 11 PM on the night of Sept. 27; 1994; the same group heard identical screams and heavy footfalls in a canyon area approximately five miles south of Sycamore Flat. Also - from precipitous regions southeast of Mt. Baldy three reports of a leaping; dog-faced; hairy winged creature that left behind wide; 18 inch three-toed foot- prints. In July of 1994 similar three-toed footprints as well as the usual five-toed Bigfoot plantigrades were reportedly found by an Upland; CA; civil engineer doing survey work at the west end of the Cucamonga Wash; near Upland. Recently more evidence of three-toes and five-toes was found at the top end of the Cucamonga Wash between Upland and Lytle Creek. I have an unconfirmed report of three-toed tracks being found near Edwards Air Force Base in 8/94., ,
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Precip: Crystal Lake 9.0 5.9 3.9 5.8 2.3 0.1 0.0 0.1 0.3 1.7 1.5 4.3 34.9
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Ecology: Missing
Location: LOS ANGELES county, CA. UNITED STATES
Sighting Type: 3
Latitude: +034˚ 24' N
Longitude: 117˚ 49' W
Day: 2
Month: DEC
Year: 1994
Time: 9 PM
Elevation: 2
Data Source: TR#43-Jan’95,
Credibility: 3
Locality: Ridges west of Sycamore Flat on Antelope Valley side of Angeles NF,
Researcher: Peter Guttilla
Witness: Peter Guttilla
Sighting Type: 3
Summary: Screams from distant ridges,
Sighting Text:
CA, * Peter Guttilla; writer. Dec. 2nd; 1994. At 9 PM on the night of Sept. 20; 1994; I and three other people heard screams coming from the ridges west of Sycamore Flat on the Antelope Valley side of the Angeles National forest; Southern CA. Again at 11 PM on the night of Sept. 27; 1994; the same group heard identical screams and heavy footfalls in a canyon area approximately five miles south of Sycamore Flat. Also - from precipitous regions southeast of Mt. Baldy three reports of a leaping; dog-faced; hairy winged creature that left behind wide; 18 inch three-toed foot- prints. In July of 1994 similar three-toed footprints as well as the usual five-toed Bigfoot plantigrades were reportedly found by an Upland; CA; civil engineer doing survey work at the west end of the Cucamonga Wash; near Upland. Recently more evidence of three-toes and five-toes was found at the top end of the Cucamonga Wash between Upland and Lytle Creek. I have an unconfirmed report of three-toed tracks being found near Edwards Air Force Base in 8/94., ,
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Precip: Crystal Lake 9.0 5.9 3.9 5.8 2.3 0.1 0.0 0.1 0.3 1.7 1.5 4.3 34.9
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Ecology: Missing
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Re: California IBS SIghting Reports
IBS Report #: 158
Location: LOS ANGELES county, CA. UNITED STATES
Sighting Type: 3
Latitude: +034˚ 19' N
Longitude: 117˚ 49' W
Day: 27
Month: SEPT
Year: 1994
Time: 11 PM
Elevation:
Data Source: TR#43-Jan’95
Credibility: 2
Locality: 5 miles south of Sycamore Flat on Antelope Valley side of Angeles NF,
Researcher: Peter Guttilla
Witness: Peter Guttilla
Sighting Type: 3
Summary: Screams ; heavy footfalls,
Sighting Text:
CA, * Peter Guttilla; writer. Dec. 2nd; 1994. At 9 PM on the night of Sept. 20; 1994; I and three other people heard screams coming from the ridges west of Sycamore Flat on the Antelope Valley side of the Angeles National forest; Southern CA. Again at 11 PM on the night of Sept. 27; 1994; the same group heard identical screams and heavy footfalls in a canyon area approximately five miles south of Sycamore Flat.,
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Precip: Crystal Lake 9.0 5.9 3.9 5.8 2.3 0.1 0.0 0.1 0.3 1.7 1.5 4.3 34.9
Temp: M
Sun:
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Ecology: Missing
Location: LOS ANGELES county, CA. UNITED STATES
Sighting Type: 3
Latitude: +034˚ 19' N
Longitude: 117˚ 49' W
Day: 27
Month: SEPT
Year: 1994
Time: 11 PM
Elevation:
Data Source: TR#43-Jan’95
Credibility: 2
Locality: 5 miles south of Sycamore Flat on Antelope Valley side of Angeles NF,
Researcher: Peter Guttilla
Witness: Peter Guttilla
Sighting Type: 3
Summary: Screams ; heavy footfalls,
Sighting Text:
CA, * Peter Guttilla; writer. Dec. 2nd; 1994. At 9 PM on the night of Sept. 20; 1994; I and three other people heard screams coming from the ridges west of Sycamore Flat on the Antelope Valley side of the Angeles National forest; Southern CA. Again at 11 PM on the night of Sept. 27; 1994; the same group heard identical screams and heavy footfalls in a canyon area approximately five miles south of Sycamore Flat.,
Climate / Ecology:
Precip: Crystal Lake 9.0 5.9 3.9 5.8 2.3 0.1 0.0 0.1 0.3 1.7 1.5 4.3 34.9
Temp: M
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Ecology: Missing
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Re: California IBS SIghting Reports
IBS Report #: 965
Location: LOS ANGELES county, CA. United States
Sighting Type: 1
Latitude: +034˚ 32' N
Longitude: 118˚ 36' W
Day:
Month:
Year: MISG
Time:
Elevation:
Data Source: TR89
Credibility: 1
Locality: NEAR CASTAIC LAKE, N. OF LOS ANGELES
Researcher: J. Gibson
Witness: J. Gibson
Sighting Type: 1
Summary: 3 BF SEEN, ONE SMALLER
Sighting Text:
CA LOS ANGELES DATE TR89 34 32N 11836W * J. Gibson, 7/11/99*** Next myself and ex-wife and three children found ourselves in a 15 minute curiosity standoff with three; two very large, one smaller, 100 yard away. There was also another witness. A farmer who owned the land near Castaic Lake, NORTH OF LOS ANGELES
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Precip: MOUNT WILSON 7.26 7.82 6.08 2.73 0.85 0.18 0.07 0.17 0.71 1.08 3.84 4.44 35.22
Temp: MOUNT WILSON
Sun:
Snow: MOUNT WILSON 4.1 2.7 3.5 1.6 0.3 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.6 1.9 14.7
Ecology: Missing
Location: LOS ANGELES county, CA. United States
Sighting Type: 1
Latitude: +034˚ 32' N
Longitude: 118˚ 36' W
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Month:
Year: MISG
Time:
Elevation:
Data Source: TR89
Credibility: 1
Locality: NEAR CASTAIC LAKE, N. OF LOS ANGELES
Researcher: J. Gibson
Witness: J. Gibson
Sighting Type: 1
Summary: 3 BF SEEN, ONE SMALLER
Sighting Text:
CA LOS ANGELES DATE TR89 34 32N 11836W * J. Gibson, 7/11/99*** Next myself and ex-wife and three children found ourselves in a 15 minute curiosity standoff with three; two very large, one smaller, 100 yard away. There was also another witness. A farmer who owned the land near Castaic Lake, NORTH OF LOS ANGELES
Climate / Ecology:
Precip: MOUNT WILSON 7.26 7.82 6.08 2.73 0.85 0.18 0.07 0.17 0.71 1.08 3.84 4.44 35.22
Temp: MOUNT WILSON
Sun:
Snow: MOUNT WILSON 4.1 2.7 3.5 1.6 0.3 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.6 1.9 14.7
Ecology: Missing
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Re: California IBS SIghting Reports
IBS Report #: 152
Location: LOS ANGELES county, CA. UNITED STATES
Sighting Type: 1
Latitude: +034˚ 23' N
Longitude: 117˚ 46' W
Day:
Month:
Year: UNK
Time:
Elevation:
Data Source: TR#43-Jan’95,
Credibility: 2
Locality: Angeles NF; San Gabriel Mts at Big Rock Canyon,
Researcher: Nancy Logan;
Witness:
Sighting Type: 1
Summary: News report on sightings in 1876;1960s and 1970s
Sighting Text:
CA, * Nancy Logan; author of the Bigfoot book; "Children Of A Lost Spirit;" (excellent fiction tale of BF in Washington- copies available at $10.00+2.00 post and handling) sent in a clipping from a Los Angeles Japanese language newspaper; "Bridge USA;" June 1; 1994. She is a translator and the clip about the Angeles National Forest reads: The Mountains Where Yeti Shows Up. The "Yeti" shows up in Los Angeles; too! The spot is in the San Gabriel Mountains at Big Rock Canyon. Way back in 1876 there were sightings; and almost every year in the 1960's and 1970's there were also sightings. Quite recently he has been frequenting Devil's Punchbowl County Park; which is near Big Rock Canyon; and also has been frequenting Buena Park; which is 40 miles south of there. In America the Yeti is called "Bigfoot;" and the Yeti that frequents Buena Park; in particular; is called "Buena Foot." How about you? Why not go and have a look around for Buena Foot? Big Rock Canyon from Pearblossom is about 8 miles SE of Big Rock Creek road. Buena Park is in the Coyote Creek Flood Channel; an area north of Franklin between Kingman and Fullerton., ,
Climate / Ecology:
Precip: Crystal Lake 9.0 5.9 3.9 5.8 2.3 0.1 0.0 0.1 0.3 1.7 1.5 4.3 34.9
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Ecology: Missing
Location: LOS ANGELES county, CA. UNITED STATES
Sighting Type: 1
Latitude: +034˚ 23' N
Longitude: 117˚ 46' W
Day:
Month:
Year: UNK
Time:
Elevation:
Data Source: TR#43-Jan’95,
Credibility: 2
Locality: Angeles NF; San Gabriel Mts at Big Rock Canyon,
Researcher: Nancy Logan;
Witness:
Sighting Type: 1
Summary: News report on sightings in 1876;1960s and 1970s
Sighting Text:
CA, * Nancy Logan; author of the Bigfoot book; "Children Of A Lost Spirit;" (excellent fiction tale of BF in Washington- copies available at $10.00+2.00 post and handling) sent in a clipping from a Los Angeles Japanese language newspaper; "Bridge USA;" June 1; 1994. She is a translator and the clip about the Angeles National Forest reads: The Mountains Where Yeti Shows Up. The "Yeti" shows up in Los Angeles; too! The spot is in the San Gabriel Mountains at Big Rock Canyon. Way back in 1876 there were sightings; and almost every year in the 1960's and 1970's there were also sightings. Quite recently he has been frequenting Devil's Punchbowl County Park; which is near Big Rock Canyon; and also has been frequenting Buena Park; which is 40 miles south of there. In America the Yeti is called "Bigfoot;" and the Yeti that frequents Buena Park; in particular; is called "Buena Foot." How about you? Why not go and have a look around for Buena Foot? Big Rock Canyon from Pearblossom is about 8 miles SE of Big Rock Creek road. Buena Park is in the Coyote Creek Flood Channel; an area north of Franklin between Kingman and Fullerton., ,
Climate / Ecology:
Precip: Crystal Lake 9.0 5.9 3.9 5.8 2.3 0.1 0.0 0.1 0.3 1.7 1.5 4.3 34.9
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Ecology: Missing
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Re: California IBS SIghting Reports
IBS Report #: 1069
Location: MADERA county, CA. UNITED STATES
Sighting Type: 2
Latitude: +037˚ 13' N
Longitude: 119˚ 30' W
Day: 17 AND 25
Month: OCT
Year: 1999
Time:
Elevation: 2640
Data Source: tr93
Credibility: 2
Locality: NORTH FORK, 11 MILES FROM OAKHURST
Researcher: BFRO
Witness: S.L.
Sighting Type: 2
Summary: VOCALIZATION, 10-11 IN TRACKS
Sighting Text:
CA MADERA 1999 TR93 BFRO* S.L. on Oct. 17 and 25, 1999, was in North Fork, Madera Co., CA, 11 miles from Oakhurst, and one mile on road 221, and off on road 200. This is about 25 miles from the south entrance to Yosemite NP. On the morning of the 17th witness and brother heard dogs barking where they live in a rural area on five acres of land in North Fork. The apparent pack of running dogs set all the other neighbor dogs to barking. Then there was loud screaming like witness had never heard before. It continued for a half hour, very loud and scary...like it was trapped and yelling for its life. Then it went silent, including the barking. Five minutes later it started from a closer position, having moved from southwest to west of them, only two dogs having followed it this time. The screaming continued for another five minutes from the manzanita and oak area, then stopped, and was not heard again. On the morning of Oct 25 witness and brother were near their mobile home and saw very large tracks of the Bigfoot creature as they passed in front of the mobile home and up a dirt path, then up a gravel road in front of the home towards my brother John’s dogs, five Siberian huskies...they never did bark that they knew of, nor when the creature was previously screaming. The tracks were 10-11 inches long with five toes, the middle toe being 1-2 inches longer than the rest, and impressed a half to an inch-and-a-half in the ground. The foot pad was round or oval and did not look human. There were no claw marks. The tracks were neither bear nor mountain lion.
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Ecology: manzanita and oak area
Location: MADERA county, CA. UNITED STATES
Sighting Type: 2
Latitude: +037˚ 13' N
Longitude: 119˚ 30' W
Day: 17 AND 25
Month: OCT
Year: 1999
Time:
Elevation: 2640
Data Source: tr93
Credibility: 2
Locality: NORTH FORK, 11 MILES FROM OAKHURST
Researcher: BFRO
Witness: S.L.
Sighting Type: 2
Summary: VOCALIZATION, 10-11 IN TRACKS
Sighting Text:
CA MADERA 1999 TR93 BFRO* S.L. on Oct. 17 and 25, 1999, was in North Fork, Madera Co., CA, 11 miles from Oakhurst, and one mile on road 221, and off on road 200. This is about 25 miles from the south entrance to Yosemite NP. On the morning of the 17th witness and brother heard dogs barking where they live in a rural area on five acres of land in North Fork. The apparent pack of running dogs set all the other neighbor dogs to barking. Then there was loud screaming like witness had never heard before. It continued for a half hour, very loud and scary...like it was trapped and yelling for its life. Then it went silent, including the barking. Five minutes later it started from a closer position, having moved from southwest to west of them, only two dogs having followed it this time. The screaming continued for another five minutes from the manzanita and oak area, then stopped, and was not heard again. On the morning of Oct 25 witness and brother were near their mobile home and saw very large tracks of the Bigfoot creature as they passed in front of the mobile home and up a dirt path, then up a gravel road in front of the home towards my brother John’s dogs, five Siberian huskies...they never did bark that they knew of, nor when the creature was previously screaming. The tracks were 10-11 inches long with five toes, the middle toe being 1-2 inches longer than the rest, and impressed a half to an inch-and-a-half in the ground. The foot pad was round or oval and did not look human. There were no claw marks. The tracks were neither bear nor mountain lion.
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Ecology: manzanita and oak area
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Re: California IBS SIghting Reports
IBS Report #: 960
Location: MARIPOSA county, CA. United States
Sighting Type: 3
Latitude: +037˚ 51' N
Longitude: 119˚ 34' W
Day:
Month:
Year: 1885
Time:
Elevation:
Data Source: TR89
Credibility: 2
Locality: YOSEMITE VALLEY, BRIDAL VEIL FALLS
Researcher: BOBBIE SHORT
Witness: G. F. Martindale
Sighting Type: 3
Summary: UNNATURAL WALL, BEHIND IS FEMALE WITH CHILD MUMMY 6' 8" LONG
Sighting Text:
CA CALAVARAS 1885 TR89 * The Giants of Yosemite Valley, California July 14 posting of Bobbie Short. sierra@n2.net Here is another piece of history for the perusal of you who collect this sort of thing. This time a piece of history from California's great Yosemite Valley which may or may not be related but certainly provokes thought. The year, 1885. In California's great Yosemite Valley under the misty expanse near Bridal-Veil Falls, a party of silver and wannabee gold miners discovered what was to become the mystery of the decade. While having lunch, Mr. G. F. Martindale who was in charge of a party of miners, noticed a pile of stones that was placed against the wall of a cliff. Seasoned miners, they were familiar with the natural formation of rock, this particular grouping struck Mr. Martindale as being unusual and seemed not to have been placed naturally. Realizing that if something in the wild is not placed naturally, he could only conclude human hands placed it there. The miners set about removing the pile of stones. Behind the pile of stones they found a wall of rock that had been shaped and joined together with knowledgeable masonry. The joints between the rocks were all of uniform 1/8 of an inch in thickness and according to the reports from the men who were there, it was a beautiful job of stone work. "As pretty as any wall on any building that I have ever seen," is the way one miner described it. Thinking that they had perhaps stumbled upon some lost treasure, the party of miners proceeded without delay and issuing great haste began tearing down the wall to get to the incredible riches that surely must lie within. Disappointment fell a heavy weight upon their heads as, in the end, they found the vault empty save a very large mummified corpse that lay on the ledge, which was carved from the natural stone for the express purpose of burial. Lighting their carbide headlamps they set about examining the vault to see if perhaps they had overlooked something, perhaps a map or some other clue to where the inevitable treasure might be hidden. Treasure of course being far more interesting than the fossil bones of a giant mummy. What they found was another vault that had been carved from natural rock - 9 feet 3 inches high, 18 feet 6 inches deep and 8 feet 4 inches wide - containing a tall mummified corpse that was 6 feet 8 inches tall. The corpse was wrapped in what appeared to be animal skins and covered with a layer of fine gray powder. The miners removed parts of the animal skins to view the corpse and found it to be that of a woman holding a child to her breast. The mummy was then taken to Los Angeles where it was placed before men, considered to be of great science in those days, most of whom agreed that is was a "relic" from a race that must have inhabited this country long before the American Indian. Tall people, they claimed, from a race which preceded the coastal natives? All agreed that the height of 6 feet 8 inches tall in death must have represented an actual height in life of about seven or more feet. If their height relationship between men and women was approximately what it is today, then they concluded the males of the species could possibly have been some eight feet tall. The most popular theory of the day was that the lady was a relic of some royal family of a lost Stone Age tribe of giants. Interestingly enough, Captains Cooke and Magellan both wrote in their ship's logs of a race of giants that inhabited what we now know as the Pacific coast of South America. Cooke was even supposed to have captured one of the giants reported to be nine feet tall. Unfortunately, the giant escaped by breaking the ropes that bound him to the mast and jumped off the ship, overboard into the sea. In an additional excerpt, Capt. Cooke wrote in his log that he was himself was 6 feet 3 inches tall, (which was very tall for those days when the average was about 5 feet 4 inches tall and under) and he could easily stand under the arm of the giant. Cooke's report started a furor that was to last another 100 years and cause many to seek these giant people. In the next century, many reports were filed stating that various of our major explorers had sighted the giants of what was then called Patagonia - but none had contact or for that matter even attempted to capture one of the giant men. Then suddenly, around the year 1650, the reports of sighting giants stopped abruptly. Perhaps the giants moved inland, perhaps because they moved far away. They couldn't have just vanished. They could have simply become unpopular attractions and thus slipped gradually into oblivion. The fact remains that once up a time, they were there. The Yosemite Valley, where the mummy was found has always been considered to be a place of great mystery by the Indians who lived there, the Ahwahneechees. The folklore of the Ahwahneechees relates a story of a giant who came into the valley long before the white man arrived. The giant's name was Oo-el-en.They were vicious giants for they liked to eat the meat of the Indians. Oo-el-en would catch the adults and carry them away to a hiding place near the foot of Cascade Falls. Oo-el-en would then cut the people into small pieces, hanging their meat in the sun to dry into jerky. The legend says that the Ahwahneechees finally killed the giants and burned their bodies. This rules out the possibility that the giant mummy of the Yosemite Valley might have been Oo-el-en. However, if there was a giant, where did he come from and was there more than one of her kind. We may never know - sadly, all the Ahwahneechees are dead, the last having died in 1947. The one thing the Ahwahneechees did leave was a written record of their long and complex burial rites. These Indians usually burned their dead - as they believed that by doing so they released the spirit of the deceased more quickly, so as to escape the evil spirits that lie in wait to grab it. The important part of the ritual in relationship to the mummy of the Yosemite Valley was that they always wrapped their dead in skins of animals before they were burned. If you recall, the mummy of the Yosemite Valley was wrapped in the skins of animals and covered with a fine gray powder. Ashes, perhaps? The learned scientist of that time, July of 1895, all agreed that the mummy predated the Christian era. It is therefore doubtful that the mummy was in any way connected with the Indians, as they were believed to have settled in the Yosemite Valley about 800 to 1000 years ago. It is important to note at this point that the Ahwahneechees were also very small people, most being less than 5 feet 3 inches tall. However, there have been traces of a much earlier people that have inhabited the Southwest. This fact was pointed out dramatically in 1866 by a miner name Mattison. No real discoveries have been made since that time by anyone other than qualified archaeologists, because it was about that time the advent of mechanized mining began. Mattison, from Angels Camp, California, found a skull almost 130 feet underground in the underground shaft of his mine in Calavaras County, CA. The discovery shook the foundations of the Genesis itself. What intrigued Mr. Mattison was why an Indian would dig a grave that deep in the ground when most were buried at about 6 feet. He knew the skull belonged to a very old Indian because it was fossilized and encrusted with the same kind of gravel distinctive to the earth in the mine shaft. He took it to one of the bars in Angels Camp on his next trip to town. There, he came across a doctor who told Mattison that if it was an Indian, it was a deformed one. The doctor pointed out the heavy to thick brow ridge which ran across the eyes and nose - he pointed several other differences in the cranium between this and other Indian skulls of more contemporary period which were occasionally dug up around those mining camps. The unknown doctor prevailed upon Mattison to report the find to Mr. J. D. Whitney, a geologist, and when shown the gravel-encrusted skull, he checked it with the gravel in its burial place and found the two to match. The skull had been found under four strata of lava and three strata of gold-bearing gravel. Thus Whitney reported it probably had been buried near the end of the Pliocene Era - a million years earlier. Was it a human skull or was it the skull of some man-like creature that walked the California soil a million years ago? Indian lore teaches us that there were creatures that ruled here long before the Indians came. According to some, they are still here, unseen by all but a few who have been lucky enough to spot a Bigfoot or a Sasquatch, or in other countries, a Yeti, a Nguoi Rung, a Chinese Yeh-ren or the Kapre and so forth. Was the Ahwahneechee Giant of Yosemite Valley related to a Sasquatch? If you recall, the mummy found in Yosemite was 6 foot 8 inches tall, which represented a height in life of close to seven feet. Was the mummy a Sasquatch, or are the Sasquatches the evolved ancestors or mutated ancestors of the mummy of the Yosemite Valley. Perhaps a hybrid? Was the skull found in Calavaras County the forerunner of both of these species, one which vanished completely and the other forced to go back into the ancient ways of the forest hiding forever from Man? The facts are there and they are undeniable. The conclusions are and must always be yours. I am still in the process of researching Calavaras County files and newspaper archives for a better description of the skull. If anyone has any information related to these events or newspaper clippings or other archival resources for the Ahwahneechees or historic Angel's Camp, California [other than the internet] I would appreciate hearing from you. Bobbie Short
Climate / Ecology:
Precip: YOSEMITE PARK 6.63 6.21 5.29 2.99 1.51 0.67 0.42 0.21 0.78 1.78 4.80 6.10 37.37
Temp: YOSEMITE PARK
Sun:
Snow: YOSEMITE PARK 16.4 11.7 10.8 5.5 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 3.6 10.0 58.2
Ecology: Missing
Location: MARIPOSA county, CA. United States
Sighting Type: 3
Latitude: +037˚ 51' N
Longitude: 119˚ 34' W
Day:
Month:
Year: 1885
Time:
Elevation:
Data Source: TR89
Credibility: 2
Locality: YOSEMITE VALLEY, BRIDAL VEIL FALLS
Researcher: BOBBIE SHORT
Witness: G. F. Martindale
Sighting Type: 3
Summary: UNNATURAL WALL, BEHIND IS FEMALE WITH CHILD MUMMY 6' 8" LONG
Sighting Text:
CA CALAVARAS 1885 TR89 * The Giants of Yosemite Valley, California July 14 posting of Bobbie Short. sierra@n2.net Here is another piece of history for the perusal of you who collect this sort of thing. This time a piece of history from California's great Yosemite Valley which may or may not be related but certainly provokes thought. The year, 1885. In California's great Yosemite Valley under the misty expanse near Bridal-Veil Falls, a party of silver and wannabee gold miners discovered what was to become the mystery of the decade. While having lunch, Mr. G. F. Martindale who was in charge of a party of miners, noticed a pile of stones that was placed against the wall of a cliff. Seasoned miners, they were familiar with the natural formation of rock, this particular grouping struck Mr. Martindale as being unusual and seemed not to have been placed naturally. Realizing that if something in the wild is not placed naturally, he could only conclude human hands placed it there. The miners set about removing the pile of stones. Behind the pile of stones they found a wall of rock that had been shaped and joined together with knowledgeable masonry. The joints between the rocks were all of uniform 1/8 of an inch in thickness and according to the reports from the men who were there, it was a beautiful job of stone work. "As pretty as any wall on any building that I have ever seen," is the way one miner described it. Thinking that they had perhaps stumbled upon some lost treasure, the party of miners proceeded without delay and issuing great haste began tearing down the wall to get to the incredible riches that surely must lie within. Disappointment fell a heavy weight upon their heads as, in the end, they found the vault empty save a very large mummified corpse that lay on the ledge, which was carved from the natural stone for the express purpose of burial. Lighting their carbide headlamps they set about examining the vault to see if perhaps they had overlooked something, perhaps a map or some other clue to where the inevitable treasure might be hidden. Treasure of course being far more interesting than the fossil bones of a giant mummy. What they found was another vault that had been carved from natural rock - 9 feet 3 inches high, 18 feet 6 inches deep and 8 feet 4 inches wide - containing a tall mummified corpse that was 6 feet 8 inches tall. The corpse was wrapped in what appeared to be animal skins and covered with a layer of fine gray powder. The miners removed parts of the animal skins to view the corpse and found it to be that of a woman holding a child to her breast. The mummy was then taken to Los Angeles where it was placed before men, considered to be of great science in those days, most of whom agreed that is was a "relic" from a race that must have inhabited this country long before the American Indian. Tall people, they claimed, from a race which preceded the coastal natives? All agreed that the height of 6 feet 8 inches tall in death must have represented an actual height in life of about seven or more feet. If their height relationship between men and women was approximately what it is today, then they concluded the males of the species could possibly have been some eight feet tall. The most popular theory of the day was that the lady was a relic of some royal family of a lost Stone Age tribe of giants. Interestingly enough, Captains Cooke and Magellan both wrote in their ship's logs of a race of giants that inhabited what we now know as the Pacific coast of South America. Cooke was even supposed to have captured one of the giants reported to be nine feet tall. Unfortunately, the giant escaped by breaking the ropes that bound him to the mast and jumped off the ship, overboard into the sea. In an additional excerpt, Capt. Cooke wrote in his log that he was himself was 6 feet 3 inches tall, (which was very tall for those days when the average was about 5 feet 4 inches tall and under) and he could easily stand under the arm of the giant. Cooke's report started a furor that was to last another 100 years and cause many to seek these giant people. In the next century, many reports were filed stating that various of our major explorers had sighted the giants of what was then called Patagonia - but none had contact or for that matter even attempted to capture one of the giant men. Then suddenly, around the year 1650, the reports of sighting giants stopped abruptly. Perhaps the giants moved inland, perhaps because they moved far away. They couldn't have just vanished. They could have simply become unpopular attractions and thus slipped gradually into oblivion. The fact remains that once up a time, they were there. The Yosemite Valley, where the mummy was found has always been considered to be a place of great mystery by the Indians who lived there, the Ahwahneechees. The folklore of the Ahwahneechees relates a story of a giant who came into the valley long before the white man arrived. The giant's name was Oo-el-en.They were vicious giants for they liked to eat the meat of the Indians. Oo-el-en would catch the adults and carry them away to a hiding place near the foot of Cascade Falls. Oo-el-en would then cut the people into small pieces, hanging their meat in the sun to dry into jerky. The legend says that the Ahwahneechees finally killed the giants and burned their bodies. This rules out the possibility that the giant mummy of the Yosemite Valley might have been Oo-el-en. However, if there was a giant, where did he come from and was there more than one of her kind. We may never know - sadly, all the Ahwahneechees are dead, the last having died in 1947. The one thing the Ahwahneechees did leave was a written record of their long and complex burial rites. These Indians usually burned their dead - as they believed that by doing so they released the spirit of the deceased more quickly, so as to escape the evil spirits that lie in wait to grab it. The important part of the ritual in relationship to the mummy of the Yosemite Valley was that they always wrapped their dead in skins of animals before they were burned. If you recall, the mummy of the Yosemite Valley was wrapped in the skins of animals and covered with a fine gray powder. Ashes, perhaps? The learned scientist of that time, July of 1895, all agreed that the mummy predated the Christian era. It is therefore doubtful that the mummy was in any way connected with the Indians, as they were believed to have settled in the Yosemite Valley about 800 to 1000 years ago. It is important to note at this point that the Ahwahneechees were also very small people, most being less than 5 feet 3 inches tall. However, there have been traces of a much earlier people that have inhabited the Southwest. This fact was pointed out dramatically in 1866 by a miner name Mattison. No real discoveries have been made since that time by anyone other than qualified archaeologists, because it was about that time the advent of mechanized mining began. Mattison, from Angels Camp, California, found a skull almost 130 feet underground in the underground shaft of his mine in Calavaras County, CA. The discovery shook the foundations of the Genesis itself. What intrigued Mr. Mattison was why an Indian would dig a grave that deep in the ground when most were buried at about 6 feet. He knew the skull belonged to a very old Indian because it was fossilized and encrusted with the same kind of gravel distinctive to the earth in the mine shaft. He took it to one of the bars in Angels Camp on his next trip to town. There, he came across a doctor who told Mattison that if it was an Indian, it was a deformed one. The doctor pointed out the heavy to thick brow ridge which ran across the eyes and nose - he pointed several other differences in the cranium between this and other Indian skulls of more contemporary period which were occasionally dug up around those mining camps. The unknown doctor prevailed upon Mattison to report the find to Mr. J. D. Whitney, a geologist, and when shown the gravel-encrusted skull, he checked it with the gravel in its burial place and found the two to match. The skull had been found under four strata of lava and three strata of gold-bearing gravel. Thus Whitney reported it probably had been buried near the end of the Pliocene Era - a million years earlier. Was it a human skull or was it the skull of some man-like creature that walked the California soil a million years ago? Indian lore teaches us that there were creatures that ruled here long before the Indians came. According to some, they are still here, unseen by all but a few who have been lucky enough to spot a Bigfoot or a Sasquatch, or in other countries, a Yeti, a Nguoi Rung, a Chinese Yeh-ren or the Kapre and so forth. Was the Ahwahneechee Giant of Yosemite Valley related to a Sasquatch? If you recall, the mummy found in Yosemite was 6 foot 8 inches tall, which represented a height in life of close to seven feet. Was the mummy a Sasquatch, or are the Sasquatches the evolved ancestors or mutated ancestors of the mummy of the Yosemite Valley. Perhaps a hybrid? Was the skull found in Calavaras County the forerunner of both of these species, one which vanished completely and the other forced to go back into the ancient ways of the forest hiding forever from Man? The facts are there and they are undeniable. The conclusions are and must always be yours. I am still in the process of researching Calavaras County files and newspaper archives for a better description of the skull. If anyone has any information related to these events or newspaper clippings or other archival resources for the Ahwahneechees or historic Angel's Camp, California [other than the internet] I would appreciate hearing from you. Bobbie Short
Climate / Ecology:
Precip: YOSEMITE PARK 6.63 6.21 5.29 2.99 1.51 0.67 0.42 0.21 0.78 1.78 4.80 6.10 37.37
Temp: YOSEMITE PARK
Sun:
Snow: YOSEMITE PARK 16.4 11.7 10.8 5.5 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 3.6 10.0 58.2
Ecology: Missing
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Re: California IBS SIghting Reports
IBS Report #: 1856
Location: MARIPOSA county, CA. United States
Sighting Type: 1
Latitude: +037˚ 49' N
Longitude: 119˚ 35' W
Day: 4
Month: JULY
Year: 1978
Time: NIGHT
Elevation: 7205
Data Source: TR30
Credibility: 1
Locality: YOSEMITE NP HQ
Researcher: MIKE STEVENSON
Witness: PARTIER AND GIRL
Sighting Type: 1
Summary: 8-10 FT BF SEEN, SHAKES CABIN
Sighting Text:
* Mike Stevenson interview: My neighbor was living in Yosemite National park and working there. one night (July 4th, 1978) I had some friends over to party and have some fun. All of them had left except this gal, and I asked her to help take empty cans out back. I was going to go around and scare her, she came flying back around as if she saw a ghost. “There's something back there...a bear or something, it's huge.” I thought it was a bear and went to look. next thing I know this thing is standing in front of me...it was big...big, the snow was hanging like icicles allover it. It looked at me, and I ran so fast I left it in my dust. I went flying around the corner taking her with me. When in the cabin, this thing started to shake the whole cabin for about 1 or 2 minutes, and it finally went away after that. It was 8 to 10 feet tall, dark colored.
Climate / Ecology:
Precip: YOSEMITE PARK 6.63 6.21 5.29 2.99 1.51 0.67 0.42 0.21 0.78 1.78 4.80 6.10 37.37
Temp: YOSEMITE PARK HDQ 37.2 41.5 44.6 50.2 57.2 64.9 71.6 71.2 65.5 56.5 44.2 36.9 53.4
Sun: Sun and Moon Data for One Day The following information is provided for Yosemite (longitude W119.6, latitude N37.8): Thursday 4 July 1974 Universal Time SUN Begin civil twilight 12:10 Sunrise 12:41 Sun transit 20:03 Sunset 03:24 on following day End civil twilight 03:55 on following day MOON Moonset 11:58 on preceding day Moonrise 02:55 Moon transit 07:52 Moonset 12:53 Moonrise 03:34 on following day
Snow: YOSEMITE PARK 16.4 11.7 10.8 5.5 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 3.6 10.0 58.2
Ecology: SNOW (JULY 4TH?)
Location: MARIPOSA county, CA. United States
Sighting Type: 1
Latitude: +037˚ 49' N
Longitude: 119˚ 35' W
Day: 4
Month: JULY
Year: 1978
Time: NIGHT
Elevation: 7205
Data Source: TR30
Credibility: 1
Locality: YOSEMITE NP HQ
Researcher: MIKE STEVENSON
Witness: PARTIER AND GIRL
Sighting Type: 1
Summary: 8-10 FT BF SEEN, SHAKES CABIN
Sighting Text:
* Mike Stevenson interview: My neighbor was living in Yosemite National park and working there. one night (July 4th, 1978) I had some friends over to party and have some fun. All of them had left except this gal, and I asked her to help take empty cans out back. I was going to go around and scare her, she came flying back around as if she saw a ghost. “There's something back there...a bear or something, it's huge.” I thought it was a bear and went to look. next thing I know this thing is standing in front of me...it was big...big, the snow was hanging like icicles allover it. It looked at me, and I ran so fast I left it in my dust. I went flying around the corner taking her with me. When in the cabin, this thing started to shake the whole cabin for about 1 or 2 minutes, and it finally went away after that. It was 8 to 10 feet tall, dark colored.
Climate / Ecology:
Precip: YOSEMITE PARK 6.63 6.21 5.29 2.99 1.51 0.67 0.42 0.21 0.78 1.78 4.80 6.10 37.37
Temp: YOSEMITE PARK HDQ 37.2 41.5 44.6 50.2 57.2 64.9 71.6 71.2 65.5 56.5 44.2 36.9 53.4
Sun: Sun and Moon Data for One Day The following information is provided for Yosemite (longitude W119.6, latitude N37.8): Thursday 4 July 1974 Universal Time SUN Begin civil twilight 12:10 Sunrise 12:41 Sun transit 20:03 Sunset 03:24 on following day End civil twilight 03:55 on following day MOON Moonset 11:58 on preceding day Moonrise 02:55 Moon transit 07:52 Moonset 12:53 Moonrise 03:34 on following day
Snow: YOSEMITE PARK 16.4 11.7 10.8 5.5 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 3.6 10.0 58.2
Ecology: SNOW (JULY 4TH?)
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